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Greece, NY vs Old Forge, PA

Greece

New York

vs

Old Forge

Pennsylvania

Across 38 directional measures we can compare, Greece leads on 13 and Old Forge on 25. Counting measures is not an overall verdict: their importance depends on your priorities. Median rent is 36% higher in Greece, while median household income is higher in Old Forge.

Median gross rent
$1,168$859
Greece is 36% higher
Median household income
$65,849$71,812
Greece is 8% lower
Median home value
$169,300$174,400
Greece is 3% lower

The Citytistics read

  • After the median rent, with other prices set to the US average, the median household has about $52,400 a year left in Greece and $62,100 in Old Forge. Money goes further in Old Forge, by about $9,800 a year.
  • A household earning Greece's median of $65,849 would need about $62,000 in Old Forge to keep the same money after rent and local prices.
  • Between the 2019 and 2024 surveys, rent outran pay by 5.0 points a year in Greece, and pay outran rent by 4.0 points a year in Old Forge.

How these are calculated

PennsylvaniaNew YorkOld Forge, PAGreece, NYGreeceOld ForgeGreeceOld Forge

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Top 2 of 2 matching places. Places in the top 1% show their national rank.

#PlaceCTXAffordabilityEconomyEducationSafetyCommuteAmenitiesGrowth
01Old Forge, PAComposite 59.2 / 100
74
92394683731544
02Greece, NYComposite 47.3 / 100
43
662244488930n/a

CTX is the Citytistics Index: better than that share of the places we rate. It tops out at 99, so the top 1% show their national rank (#1 is best). Change any weight to rank on your own mix. How the CTX is built

Every measure

The dots show where each place sits among the 6,645 places we track. The bar is the median. A small dot after a value marks the better one.

MeasureGreeceOld ForgeAmong all places
Cost of living
Median gross rent1$1,168$859
Rent to income121.3%14.4%
Property tax rate13.0%1.3%
Home price to income12.6x2.4x
Prices vs US average297.093.6
Fair market rent, 2 bedrooms3$1,416$1,363
HUD area median income4$107,000$92,400
Housing
Property tax paid (median)1$5,108$2,254
Median home value1$169,300$174,400
Home prices, 1-year change56.6%4.9%
Home prices, 5-year change569.0%54.1%
Homeownership170.1%70.0%
Renters paying 30%+161.5%41.7%
Owner costs with a mortgage1$1,449$1,380
Vacant homes16.5%11.9%
Median year built119681960
Jobs and income
Median household income1$65,849$71,812
Income per person1$39,610$40,219
Unemployment17.9%5.5%
Average annual pay6$69,031$55,423
Pay growth, 1 year63.3%3.2%
Jobs6386,91198,798
Poverty rate110.9%7.5%
Mean commute118 min21 min
Works from home113.1%9.1%
Commutes by transit11.8%0.0%
People
Population113,9438,573
Population change since 20207n/a1.4%
Median age143.347.4
Bachelor's or higher129.1%30.3%
High school or higher187.8%93.7%
Household size12.22.3
Born abroad16.6%3.5%
No health insurance11.3%4.9%
Homes with broadband190.6%85.0%
Moving
Moved here in the past year11.0%5.5%
Moved from another state12.1%2.2%
Net movers per 1,000 people8-5.31.4
Income of households moving in8$66,095$53,649
Income of households moving out8$73,310$67,134
Local life
Restaurants and bars per 10k921.824.9
Shops per 10k929.137.4
Arts, recreation and fitness per 10k94.43.4
Doctors' offices and clinics per 10k915.124.5
Child care centers per 10k92.93.0
Parks per 10k101.42.3
Playgrounds per 10k1018.64.7
Grocery stores per 10k101.40.0
Restaurants, cafes and bars per 10k1015.810.5
Libraries per 10k100.00.0
Named paths and bike trails100.00.1
Transit stops per sq mi103.90.0
Nearest National Park Service site1150.04.4
National Park Service sites within 60 miles1113
National Register listings12438
Founded or incorporated131822n/a
Safety
Violent crime per 100k1416781
Property crime per 100k141,440494
Schools
Public schools151742
Public school students15101,747966
Students per teacher1511.212.7
Climate
July average high1681°F80°F
January average low1618°F16°F
Average temperature1649°F47°F
Annual precipitation1634.6 in45.2 in
Hazards and air
Natural hazard risk1793.889.9
Hurricane risk1768.882.0
Tornado risk1787.268.1
Wildfire risk1747.141.4
Heat wave risk1794.883.6
Median air quality index183939
Good air days1874.2%74.0%

Data bundle checked 2026-11-14; individual source vintages vary. Rent needed at the 30% line: Greece $46,720, Old Forge $34,360 a year.

Sources and methods

The small numbers beside each measure point here. Links go to the publisher.

  1. American Community Survey 5-year estimates · US Census Bureau · 2020 to 2024 estimatesTables B01002, B01003, B05002, B07003, B08013, B08301, B15003, B17001, B19013, B19301, B23025, B25002, B25003, B25010, B25035, B25064, B25070, B25077, B25088, B25103, B28002, S2701
  2. Regional Price Parities · US Bureau of Economic Analysis · Latest release, retrieved 2026-11-14
  3. Fair Market Rents · US Department of Housing and Urban Development · Fiscal year 2027
  4. Income Limits · US Department of Housing and Urban Development · Fiscal year 2026
  5. House Price Index · Federal Housing Finance Agency · Latest release, retrieved 2026-11-14
  6. Quarterly Census of Employment and Wages · US Bureau of Labor Statistics · 2025 annual averages
  7. Population Estimates · US Census Bureau · Vintage 2025
  8. SOI Tax Stats, county-to-county migration · Internal Revenue Service · Tax years 2022 to 2023Counts tax returns and the people on them; flows under 20 returns are suppressed.
  9. County Business Patterns · US Census Bureau · 2023 data
  10. OpenStreetMap · © OpenStreetMap contributors, available under the Open Database License (ODbL) · Map data as of 2026-11
  11. National Park Service sites · Wikidata (CC0), units operated by the National Park Service · Retrieved 2026-11
  12. National Register of Historic Places · National Park Service · Listings through 2026-05-22
  13. Wikidata · Wikimedia Foundation (CC0) · Retrieved 2026-11
  14. Crime Data Explorer · Federal Bureau of Investigation · 2025 data
  15. Common Core of Data · National Center for Education Statistics · 2024 release
  16. 1991-2020 climate normals · NOAA National Centers for Environmental Information · Series updated 2026-11-05Averages for 1991 to 2020 computed from NOAA's county climate series (nClimDiv).nClimDiv county series
  17. National Risk Index · Federal Emergency Management Agency · Latest release, retrieved 2026-11-14NRI data and maps
  18. Air Quality System, annual AQI by county · US Environmental Protection Agency · 2025 dataAirData download files

Derived by Citytistics from the tables above: rent to income (B25064, B19013); property tax rate (B25103, B25077); home price to income (B25077, B19013).

Survey figures are estimates with margins of error. Formulas and definitions: methodology.

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